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Author: | Mark Hanna [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:22 am ] |
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I love building jigs. Creativity. I'd love to see what some of you guys use for your jigs for different operations. Mark |
Author: | LanceK [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:48 am ] |
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Check out this jig from Guitar Jigs, I did this little demo a while back End Graft cutter |
Author: | Mark Hanna [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:26 am ] |
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I've used this home made end graph jig. Got this idea from Dennis Scannell from True North Guitars. Great Site by the way. First cut the end graph, notice plywood base. will come off when this same jig goes on the guitar. Now notice base is removed and the jig clamped to guitar for negative cutout Works every time |
Author: | Roy O [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:48 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Mark Hanna] I've used this home made end graph jig. Got this idea from Dennis Scannell from True North Guitars. Great Site by the way. First cut the end graph, notice plywood base. will come off when this same jig goes on the guitar. [/QUOTE] Ok, dumb question time... How do you cut the end graph? Do you just mark it in the jig and then cut it with a band saw or do you cut it somehow in the jig itself? Cool jig BTW. |
Author: | Mark Hanna [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:00 am ] |
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I cut it right in the jig using an 1/8" router bit and a guide bushing. You have to make a slight adjustment to compensate the bushing and bit by loosing the wing nuts. The Graph you cut is longer then the guitar body, so you have room for error. It's a wedge. as in the last picture, I was even able to fit purfling in. |
Author: | Roy O [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:57 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Mark Hanna] I cut it right in the jig using an 1/8" router bit and a guide bushing. You have to make a slight adjustment to compensate the bushing and bit by loosing the wing nuts. The Graph you cut is longer then the guitar body, so you have room for error. It's a wedge. as in the last picture, I was even able to fit purfling in.[/QUOTE] Got it. Thanks Mark. |
Author: | Terry Stowell [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:08 am ] |
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Mark, Nice jig. I too saw it on Dennis' website. He didn't repsond to my 2 requests for more info, so this is helpful. Question. Do you double stick tape the end graft to the lower base to hold it in place Question #2. After you cut the graft, how does one keep the top two halves perfectly indexed after removing the lower plywood? How do you line it up on the guitar? Using the cut end graft snugged in between the top halves to get the spacing correct? Indexing is my main concern. How, how, how? BTW, I LOVE fluted end grafts. So as soon as I figure it out, get me a guide bushing, I'm gonna make one! |
Author: | Mark Hanna [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:35 am ] |
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Hi Terry, I don't tape the end graph piece. I have sandpaper under the jig wings, and a scrap piece equal to the e/g/piece. It locks down very tightly. If you look at the 2 pics of the jig, the 1st one only has the plywood attached under the wings. the holes drilled in the plywood base are a certain distance apart. (depends on e/g/width you want)The second pic shows the guitar clamps on the wings, and the holes in those clamps need to correspond with holes in the plywood, minus the compensation for the router bit. Again, there is small amount of room for error, due to the fact this is a wedge. I hope that explains it, if not I'll try again. I don't know if Dennis does this the exact way, I too had to figure this out from his pics. Mark |
Author: | Peter J [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:58 am ] |
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Mark, It is obvious that the distance between the two jig profiles is different between cutting the EG piece and then routing the EG channel in the tailpiece but do you have a specific measurement that you offset between the two? Pete |
Author: | Mark Hanna [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:33 am ] |
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Pete, it depends on your router setup. You would need to take into account the router bushing your using. Look at pic 2. I have mine on the pc lam. trim. When I cut the actual EG,(1st Pic), The wings are set to the outer line of the final eg width. (2nd pic), the wings are set for the inside line of the eg. a is where the the wings should be when cutting out the eg. b. is where it should be located on the guitar clamp brackets. The difference is the router being on one side of the final dimension line or the other. You need to figure out with your router and bushing. I did some practicing before I got it right. It's very consistent now that I have it. I hope that explained it. If not let me know. One other improvement on this jig, I have longated all the holes so I can make the eg different widths. I simply have a set of templates for each width to quickly set up for that width. |
Author: | James Orr [ Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:31 am ] |
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It might be good to add a rule to it somehow. Take one off a dial-caliper or something and glue it on. Make the 5 the center line. |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:37 am ] |
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I would do it another way - same jig, but get the inlay set of router bit and bushings that Lee Valley sells - you route the inlay piece with the bushing sleeve off, then route the pocket with it on - the bushing sleeve takes into account the offset, and the piece is a tight fit - no fooling around with trying to move the template two hairs. my $.02. Its about 25 bucks. |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:47 am ] |
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Jigs you want? Ok, here's my rosette cutter jig, just a round piece of plexiglass with the router centered and fixed from underneat, you can repeat the same patterns over and over by deciding what diameters you'll need and pierce 1/8" holes for a 1/8" pivoting pin at half the distance of each diameter chosen! My binding and purfling cutter jig, assembled with scrounged metal and plexiglass parts, it would be difficult to describe the parts, i just built it as i went with bearings bolts and wing nuts, the only thing i was looking for was to have this jig indexing from the sides and rolling well, i can adjust the height or depth of cut manually... And my fretboard radiussing jig, you can make compound radiuses or same radius on the whole fretboard with it, thanks to my bud Al Peebles for that ingenious jig and plan! It's got a swing underneath the main table and the router slides over that huge slot. The fret board sits on the swing underneath, it can swing to different arches, you decide where you want your pivoting points, 12, 14, 16,...20" radius! You just clamp the jig to your workbench. Ok, i could go on and on but i'll let the geniusses here give ya some more! ![]() |
Author: | Lillian F-W [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:41 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Serge Poirier] Ok, i could go on and on but i'll let the geniusses here give ya some more! ![]() Please do. I'd love to see what you've come up with as well as what everyone else has hiding in their shop. |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:41 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Aoibeann] [QUOTE=Serge Poirier] Ok, i could go on and on but i'll let the geniusses here give ya some more! ![]() Please do. I'd love to see what you've come up with as well as what everyone else has hiding in their shop.[/QUOTE] Ok Lillian, ![]() ![]() You can find more details on this on Sylvan Wells website : http://wellsguitars.com/Articles/Fret_Cutting_Article.htm Here's mine Made some changes since then for the sled here Edit: you just stick or tape the WFRET read out on the plexiglass and you are ready to go cut the slots! ![]() |
Author: | GregG [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:27 am ] |
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I'm with you Lance on this one, I hate cutting the end grafts, takes me forever to get it perfect....I like this jig!! Greg |
Author: | Lillian F-W [ Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:47 am ] |
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20" instead of 16" and ply instead of MDF. My thoughts exactly. |
Author: | Marc [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:52 am ] |
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![]() Kerfing jig, cuts four sets at once, brass spine on the saw is used for the stop, tray slides and is indexed. |
Author: | Wayne Clark [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:59 am ] |
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I spent most weekends this summer building jigs. Here is my Woolson neck jig: And just yesterday I radiused a couple of fret boards on my Peebles jig: And finally, here is a thickness calipre I made out of a dial indicator from Harbor Freight and some scrap wood: |
Author: | Mark Hanna [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:33 am ] |
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Todd, how can I get the plans for the 20" thickness sander? I've been meaning to build one. |
Author: | GregG [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:31 am ] |
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On that radius jig do you just lock the fretboard in one position run the router the length of the board adjust the board a tad and do it again & again.. Greg |
Author: | Wayne Clark [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:40 am ] |
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[QUOTE=GregG] On that radius jig do you just lock the fretboard in one position run the router the length of the board adjust the board a tad and do it again & again.. Greg[/QUOTE] Thats right. The fb is stuck to the jig with a few pieces of double-sided tape. |
Author: | GregG [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:47 am ] |
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Wayne, What is the length of the arm on that jig to arrive at the appropriate radius? Thanks, Greg |
Author: | Wayne Clark [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:01 am ] |
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Greg, Here is the original thread where the jig was described. Al Peebles posted some plans in the thread with all the relevant dimensions. |
Author: | John Watkins [ Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:57 am ] |
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Here's my deluxe binding color scraping apparatus with micro-fine depth adjustment. I don't mind telling you, this thing was in R&D for years, but the results speak for themselves.... ![]() ![]() |
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